9.2 trillion dollar deficit only partly about war

I see assertions about figures, but I see no facts. You are not George W. Bush. You cannot get away with making unproven assertions. You may be getting your figures from Bill O'Reilly or George W. himself or your rectal cavity.

"The national debt was more than 6 trillion dollars when President Bush took office." - What is it now (referenced please)?

"The problem is entitlements which make up 2/3 of the budget along with the interest on the national debt." - A disingenuous answer if ever I saw one! Don't try grouping interest with entitlements; that won't wash here! Assuming for the sake of argument that your 2/3 is accurate, the interest may be a great deal more than the entitlements. If you can make those assertions, you must have gotten figures from somewhere. Give us your sources so we can check them out! You give no references. Read my blog and see how blogging should be done. I substantiate everything, particularly figures. Not all figures are equal and neither are all sources.

You still neglected to respond to the accepted fact that Clinton got the budget in the Black. And Bush took it into the Red. Explain how that makes Bush a Conservative and Clinton a Liberal. Incidentally, being a Liberal is a very good thing. I am NOT impressed with either Conservatives or Neocons.

To quote Sargent Joe Friday, "Just the facts!"

Tabacco PS I am not in the least impressed with your variation of my blog moniker. Is that the best you can do to refute my arguments? Pitiful!

PS

I did not see your $9.2 trillion figure. In case you cannot do the arithmetic, 9.2/6 is over 53% increase in 6 years. The national debt goes back eons and Bush increased it more than even Reagan. Nice going!

Then you Neocons say things like, "we've got to balance the budget". What hypocrisy!

Tabacco

Entitlement spending is a problem. I went over some of those figures when I interned in D.C. It's kinda scary. The Federal government spends around $300,000 to transport people in rural areas to the airport every year. I'm not really sure why the government should be doing that.

I do think that the deficit going up that much in 7 years is a lot. Of course, our money has been devalued, so that probably doesn't help. I think spending in all areas is out of control.

Oh, and Tobacco, where's your sources and research then? As you haven't done the math or provided research either I see no reason to take your word over the writer of this blog. As for your shameful plug about your own blog, I wouldn't bother reading something by someone who comes off as ill mannered as you do. Your advertising needs work.

Esther:

I am willing to compare my Hits against those for Politicalman any day.

Regards,

Tabacco PS On my 1st go-around I went out of my way not to publish my blog URL. I only did so because someone made a comment about my not giving references. (Smile) I don't need Politicalman's traffic! He might need some of mine.

I don't understand Tabacco's tone. Politicalman is making observations about this and that but never in a tone that invites the condescension and combativeness that characterize Tabacco's posts about him. I might add that neither does politicalman make grandiose claims about exposing the malfeasance of others, which seems to be implicit in the phrase of which "tabacco" is an acronym. Finally, I should say that whether or not I agree with him, I find politicalman intelligible, whereas I find tabacco's posts rather difficult to understand. Even more finally, I'd say that in this very complicated world, the single most important virtue leading to truth is humility. Politicalman has it in spades. Others sometimes do not, which makes them more interested in putting across their point of view than in listening to what others say or trying to sit still and understand the world as it really is.

I wonder if Esther learned her admiration of "humility" from George W. Bush!

I am angry at middle class people, who cannot see through Republican Sophistry.

None of you are Rich, making War Profits, or run large businesses. Why would you favor Republicans when they do not favor you? The top 5% of our Economic Pyramid could not win an election for Dog Catcher if they did not confuse, befuddle and manipulate the other 95%. Therefore they must get at least 46% from the people, who benefit least from Republican control. In order to do that, they cater to racists, particularly in the Deep-South, to quasi-religious Christians, who think that God wants them to discriminate against homosexuals and denigrate women, who have abortions, while God does not care in the slightest if the most powerful nation on earth commits genocide, theft of others' natural resources, and make humongous profits using God's name in vain. Add in the frightened people, who shudder each time Bush announces a movement to Defcon X, the ignorant people, who watch Fox and MSNBC and haven't the faintest idea what's going on inside the White House, those Bush supporters, who refuse to accept that he lies, commits murder under false pretenses, attempts to run every government on the planet, etc. etc.

I hear and read many bloggers and Readers, who think America has the right to rule the planet. So this doesn't surprise me, but it does make me want to vomit. Americans, who think they are savvy politically, are the most conceited, obnoxious, arrogant, manipulative people on the planet since the Nazis' overthrow. I am overwhelmed by the indifference to death, disease, famine and destruction of our planet by Rich men, whose only ambition is to be even Richer.

Perhaps now you can understand why I'm angry. I am only slightly less angry with Hillary and Barack, who want to get their share of the spoils that Bush is now raking in. If you are unaware of these items I mention, either you are uninformed or cruel - I leave that to your moralities.

Political Correctness is the problem. That's why Lou Dobbs almost blows a gasket but won't call the president a lying, murdering thief, even though he wants to very much. I have no such compunction because I do not get paid to blog. I do not accept advertising. I get generally 2,000 to 5,000 hits per day so there are a lot of people, who read Tabacco, not all of whom reside in the USA.

I say these things because people have got to wake up. It may already be too late.

To elect another Republican president in 2008 would be similar to the German people electing another Nazi after the death of Hitler. I know you will not agree, but it is the Truth anyway.

I neither hate nor dislike anyone who comes here, but we must band together before all our Constitutional rights vanquish, all our jobs and money are in the hands of the few, Ruppert Murdoch is the only voice or written word any of us can access and the bigots rule the planet.

In case you didn't know, the FCC just passed an abominable 3-2 vote today to expand the ownership rules governing the media. I think that is a little more important than whether Tabacco observes the Christmas spirit. BUSH IS STILL KILLING INNOCENT IRAQIS because supposedly good Americans are too stubborn to believe that an American president could emulate Adolf Hitler. But one has!

I hope you get a better understanding of why I do what I do. I am 65, Black, well-educated, fortunate enough to have paid off my mortgage, and aware that the "Have-Mores" (that's Bush's term) are robbing the middleclass blind. I do not wish to be rich. Some in the past have said that if I became rich, I would also become a Republican. NO WAY! I'd rather donate my $-millions to charity than surrender my soul to the devil.

Peace & Love But pass the ammunition

Regards, Tabacco Bleeding Liberals, who turn the other cheek do NOT INHERIT THE EARTH - the evil Disaster Capitalists inherit the earth! God put us here to fight for a fair share, not just for ourselves but for others too.

Sorry, my initial comment about "humility" should have been directed to Stephen, not Esther. Before I could change it, I was published. Sorry, Esther!

Regards again, Tabacco